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to believe that. >> sean: so we're about to hit this debt ceiling. 16.3 trillion, and at the time in 2008 when obama's running, he says it's irresponsible to take a credit card in the name of our kids to the bank of china. we have to pay that money back. now it's 16.3. they're running out of money once again, so republicans are saying all right, we've got to eat our spinach, we've got to eat our broccoli. we've got to study, turn off the tv, turn off the video games and do our homework. is that as appealing as democrats saying free health care, free day care, we'll redistribute the wealth. i mean, it seems like there's a battle for the heart and soul of the country. where does america come down, and where was america traditionally? >> well, first let's address president obama's flip flop on his philosophy there when it comes to raising the debt ceiling. he certainly condemned president bush in those years of raising the debt ceiling, and then look at where he's taken this cufnlt he's taken us into a state of bankruptcy with his changed idea on it being a good thing to raise the debt ceili
changed the rules. that happened in the progressive era. it happened against with roosevelt. obama is looking -- is taking a page out of their book. the two things he wants to do is number one, you mentioned before. no congressional approval of a debt ceiling, and second, and they're going to do this one, it looks like, unless some rational democratic senators come to their aid which is change the rules of the senate to make 51 votes all that is necessary to pass a bill in the united states senate. it will eliminate by and large the filibuster. >> every majority wants to do that. >> they're the only ones that will do it. they're threatening to do that. in fact, they're scheduled to vote to do that, to the rules in a way that's never been done before. it's been threatened before, but nobody's ever pulled the trigger on it. it looks like they're willing to pull the trigger to get what they want which is a majority rule to be able to force things down the throats of the american people that they don't want. >> if he gets his revenue but makes no structural change in the way we do busi
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